Showing posts with label 2012 Bugs. Show all posts
Showing posts with label 2012 Bugs. Show all posts

Saturday, September 21, 2013

More on Keynotes

This is a quick follow-up post to this one on the topic of keynotes. I have to confess that this is one of my least favorite tools in Revit. Not because of the potential of using keynotes in documentation, but because of the overall lackluster implementation in Revit, which tends to leave a lot of holes in the workflow.

We have also been plagued by too many visibility and collateral issues in the past:

  • Pre-Revit 2013, keynotes didn’t work properly in dependent views (never posted here about it after reporting the issue, but it was resolved in Revit 2013);
  • Borrowing of Sheet Worksets when keynoting elements in Linked Files as explained here at the Revit Clinic in pre-Revit 2014. This has been addressed in the current release as explained here, which is my primary reason for upgrading existing projects to 2014;
  • Besides the visibility issue noted in my previous post, keynotes buried in design options, even if not visible in the view due to V/G settings, still schedule in the Keynote Legend (thanks to Trey Klein for this one!);

I’m sure there are other issues, such as the inability for multiple users to edit the keynote text file, API limitations that prevent developers of Keynote plugins to reload a modified keynote text file as soon as it is modified, and the list goes on.

Steve Stafford has a very good post on the topic if you’re into using this functionality. My biggest point of contention with keynotes is the over-use of User Keynotes, which increase “laziness” in updating Revit families in content libraries to actually include keynote information and discourage abiding with firm standards (assuming they exist). There are instances where keynotes need to be placed on the fly such as in addition & renovation projects containing demo plans, where you’re mostly assigning “actions” to collections of elements rather than definitions/”nouns” to singular elements. However in most cases, I encourage users to first assign a keynote value to their families, and then place Element Keynotes instead.

Keynoting

If you’re a heavy keynote user, you absolutely have to use a plugin. Mr. Stafford references a very good one by Steve Faust of Revolution Design, called Keynote Manager. I believe this is the first plugin ever built to address keynoting inefficiencies and is nowadays a very mature and full-featured product. I have been toying around with another one recently from KiwiCodes called Keynote Browser. It is still not as fine-tuned as the Keynote Manager, but could be a slightly cheaper alternative if you don’t need as much functionality, although at the moment Steve’s solution is much more solid and reliable.


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Saturday, August 13, 2011

Missing panels in contextual Modify tab

This has been happening sporadically in Revit 2011 and I believe it’s been fixed in 2012. Basically you would be editing a profile sketch such as a wall through Edit Profile, you switch your view to a standalone RFA family and upon switching back to the project environment, the contextual panels disappear and the contextual Modify tab switches to the usual Modify tab only, leaving you stuck in sketch mode with no apparent way back to the project.
Disappearing panels
The first way out is through assigning a keyboard shortcut for Finish Edit Mode: all 8 of them in 2011 (and 9 in 2012!). Honestly, I think there should only be one as the user doesn’t care which particular sketch mode is active: they just want to learn one shortcut that gives them the ability to finish any sketch mode. I sympathize with the technical reasons why there’s more than one, but if that is truly necessary, why make them look identical with no way to distinguish them except through endless hours of trial end error?
Finish Edit Mode
The second method makes the panels reappear so you can continue editing the sketch or finish/discard; here’s how you do it:

  1. Start a new family, pick any one;
  2. Load it into your project;
  3. Once you get the error that it cannot be placed in this mode, hit Ctrl+z to undo.
For some reason the panels come back. Obviously, do not switch back to the open families or you’ll lose them again! This has happened to me several times now, especially when I open a profile family to “steal” the linework and paste it into the profile sketch of a wall. So if this happens again in 2012 in one of the 9 sketch modes, one of these methods might help you get out of a bind.


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